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doing the final teaches as we speak, in total, what this means to us and what we feel is this premise of finding a home, of having a footprint where instead of being a nomad i -- nomadic institution [inaudible] it steps from the western addition and connected by public transit, all of that helps us fulfill this mission and the music we are all here to serve, so this is our center. >> thank you. >> i for one just want to say how exciting i think this project is. i've been watching your building go up for mothers or since the project broke
ground. i love jazz. it's what i started with, the fact that you can put it all in one place is amazing. i think this is awesome and i wish you the best with it. >> thank you. >> alright. so, do we have any public comment or the police, anyone want to comment on the sf jazz? hello? >> my name is mount alan, i'm the events director for sf jazz and i'm here to recognize some of the support that we've been able to amass throughout the community, i would just like to introduce a few people in respect of the agenda that you have, we'd like to keep it tight beth rubenstein is executive director for out of siekt, loraine is the community
school coordinator for the fall reveer middle school, christine harris is the chair for the board of directors of the jazz heritage center and marylan coral is the assistant principal and donald savoy is the director for the civic community benefits district, nan key ton is the director, internal affairs for the san francisco symphony, and assistant managing director , and out of this group, we would like to hear from two of them if we may. would you like to come up, please, beth. thanks. >> hello, everyone, i'm the director of the out of sights
and we're honored to be partnered with sf jazz and speak on their behalf, we work with teenage youths would don't have access to arts education and don't have access to after school activities, that gives them that access, and our partnership with sf jazz has enabled us to bring world class musicians to a group of youths who are sophisticated and smart but haven't had the opportunity and haven't had arts education. it's been very powerful to see youth who haven't played instruments to be playing instruments and to be working in musical production and visual labs, and we've been working with sf jazz before the building has been built, once the building is built, our students will be able to go on saturdays to the music production lab, both sf jazz is coming out to the neighborhood
and enabling our youth to come downtown to use the resources of the city that they have not had access to, so we are huge supporters and lovers of sf jazz. >> good evening, commissioners, thanks for an opportunity to speak this evening, i'm jennifer no r-r is, i'm the director of the war memorial, sf jazz has been our tenant in the symphony hall for many years now and they've been a great tenant, it would be sadder to see them move down the street where we were not closing the herb's, but one of the great benefits of community about this happening and happening now is that they will be able to accommodate some of the renters that leave the herb's theatre and will be homeless for 27 months, we'll all be looking for places for them to be and hope they all thrive and return to the herbs
after that, sf jazz is -- i'm also a secretary of the civic center community benefit district board, the big long sentence, and we see that any time we activate a part of the civic center and get people on the streets at hours that they normally wouldn't be, you see it all over the city, it solves a lot of problems in terms of what's going on in the street, at night, on the weekends, civic center is one of those place that is the carpets roll up on non-performance night and it's a big night bh all of us go home, they'll be able to activate this neighborhood even more than it is right now and that will be a big benefit so i urge you to approve their permit. >> thank you. >> alright, do we have anymore -- here comes another one.
>> i'm not here as part of the prey, but my name's michael nulty, i'm with better district 6, the alliance for better district 6 land use committee has recommended their alcohol license and we support their place of permit application. thank you. >> hi, i'm ann -- audrey, i think you stole my word, i'm excited, the facility is opening as well. what i wanted to do is come up here and show our support and then i wanted to introduce our new permit officer, dave frias, we will be making comments on the third item going forward as well, but no opposition, just fully support the program. i didn't know they applied for
an alcohol license though. do we know that? >> it's not part of this commission. >> yeah. >> okay. >> okay. >> is there anymore public comment? yes? >> as part of the public, i was able to get a hard hat to wear and it wasn't quite as done as it is now but it was pretty amazing, i know mr. klein's here, raise your hand, he's sort of responsible for it and i'm sure he would invite any of your commissioners to check it out, i'm not sure what state it's in at the moment but it's pretty cool. >> i'll do anything to put on a hard hat, so is there anymore public comment? seeing none, the matter is with the commission. >> commissioners, i have a book
at home, it's called the harlem of the west and it talks about the jazz district in the western edition and how it was decimated by redevelopment after world war ii, it is exciting to me that jazz in san francisco has a central place to be, so with that, i move to approve. >> i second it. >> commissioner akers? >> aye. >> commissioner perez? >> aye. >> commissioner hyde? >> aye. >> commissioner joseph? >> aye. >> commissioner tan? >> aye. >> commissioner lee? >> aye. >> awesome, good luck. >> yeah, good luck. >> i'll take that hard hat. >> alright, with that, i would like to call item number c, chadwick baumbach, like erma, dba, lot 46.
>> so, this is an application for two permits you're considering this evening, extended hours and place of entertainment, 46 geary is between grant and kerny, this is a basement space ask the applicant intend to -- an up scale lounge, we've seen several letters of support are in your packet, at least 7 and we've received 0 oppositions of concern, and i believe central station is still here but i understand the sfpd also recommends approval of this application. >> before we go on, we have one announcement from the dias. >> i believe i need to make this disclosure that mr. baumbach was a client of mine but that relationship ended in 2009 and i feel like i can sit on this permit objectively. >> alright, mr. baumbach?
>> good evening, commissioners, my name is chadwick baumbach, this is my partner, gabriel mcwilliams and we are the sole owners of sf entertainment, the venue has been in existence since 2009 and since then, we're in the process of purchasing the existing lounge, lot 46, and lot 46 is located at 46 gaer -- geary street, a block and a half from union square, the venue has been in existence since 2009 and since then, they've been operating it with a basement space of about 4500 square foot which consisted of two dance floors and a third floor which is about a thousand square feet which had a third dance floor, so two floors and three dance floors. musically, their format has been predominantly hip hop and
top 40, once we take possession of the space, our plan is to close down for a period of likely a couple of months and what we plan to do is we do not plan to take over the third floor at all, that's going to be leased out to a clothing tailor, we're going to limit our operation tos the basement level with one dance floor, we're taking a space from two floors, three dance floors to one floor which is the basement with one dance floor. so, we're decreasing the size of the space, therefore, we're decreasing the occupancy load by about 50 patrons. we'll also musically, we'll be playing predominantly down tempo music, eclectic jazz, rock, remixes, driven by mostly dj's but also one to three
piece bands. we'll be spending a significant amount of money on redesigning the space, we've contracted with an award winning designer and plan to completely reinvent the space and make it more up scale and much more comfortable and nice, so after we submitted our application, we notified inspector van coal as well as the san francisco police department permit officer steve mathias, we were able to meet with the officer last month and we met with him at the space and we talked about a little bit of our history, what we're about, what we've done, the history of the space and what our plans are for the space. we also discussed in detail much about our security plan
because we know that that's very important to the police department as well as ourselves, and a couple of those key concerns that we addressed were the security personnel, we plan to staff one security personnel for every 50 to 75 patrons, we plan to have surveillance cameras at both entrances and exits and the cameras will be wide angled cameras able to not only film what's happening at both entrances and exits but what's happening across the street, and we also plan to have both entrances and exits well lit with security patrolling 100 feet in both directions and of course adopting a solid, good neighbor policy. also, after we submitted our application, we begafn doing our neighborhood outreach, we reached out to some
neighborhood groups, we reached out to david volobis from the community leadership alliance, we had several great discussions with him, we became members of the group, we gave a presentation at the group meeting this month and i've also received a letter of support from him. we've also had a great conversation with michael nulty with the alliance for better district 6, went over all the details of the project with him and fully supported by him as well. in addition, we contacted donna fikarota with the union square association and was able to give her a tour of the space and told her our plans and we feel positive with that and finally what we feel as equally as important, we went door to door and talked to all of our neighbors, we introduced ourselves, talked about our project and our plans and it
seems like we have a lot of support from our neighbors and we've been able to acquire several letters of support for the project. aside from that, i'd like to answer any questions that you have. >> do we have any questions from the commission? >> just, is that a rhinoceros head in this picture? >> yes, those are pictures of inspiration, those are not the picture of the venue itself, we got together with the designer and come up with some designs we felt we kind of wanted to culminate together and bring together for the project. >> and if i may, that's a hippo. >> it's a hippo? >> that's a hippo. >> you're right, it's a hippo. >> i know you said you haven't started with construction, do
you have an anticipated date of open, is it next summer? >> yeah, sometime in the spring. >> in the spring? >> yeah. >> and then what kind of -- i guess do you have promoters coming in? >> a lot of the events will be, you know, done in-house, but we might bring in some promoter. i've been producing events in the city for a long time, so i'll be doing a lot of the programming, but from time to time, we'll likely bring in promoters. >> and following up on the promoters, we do have a promoters registry up on the entertainment commission website and all promoters must be registered with us, so if you are using promoters, i would suggest they register with us and make sure they have. >> certainly. >> okay. >> what entrance are you using for your face? >> you know, originally, we planned on using gary street, that's still our anticipated
entrance. >> and where's your smokers going? >> the smokers will be on the backside, we'll create a little area in the back for them, we'll have security back there as well. >> i just wanted to thank you and comment you from the community outreach you've done, i appreciate that and also for adopting the security plan that you have, so good job. >> thank you very much. >> okay, would anyone like to make some public comment on this permit? come on up, don't be shy. >> good evening, commissioner, we are supporting this project, i believe you have our letter of support in your packet, i just wanted to add that previous owner was somewhat
complaisant and their security plans, and by word of mouth, they described the place at ghetto, these people want to turn this around, these people are very responsible and considerate of the neighbors so again we support this project. thank you. >> thank you. >> mr. nulty? >> hi, my name's michael nulty, i'm the executive director of alliance 6, i guess my first question is whether or not they're going the keep the name lot 46, it wasn't clear. the license says one thing and they're here on the calendar it says they are. anyway, the owners have contacted us with their executive summary and security plan. the alliance for better district 6 land use committee is neutral on the place of entertainment because we have concerns about their floor plan
because they didn't provide us with the floor plan and their security plan is only a one-page which seems to be a deployment plan, it's not a detailed security plan. we wish lot 46 the best of luck and we look forward to working with them with did community -- the community late -- late e but at this point, we're neutral. thank you. >> thank you. >> hello, steve mathias from central station, we would like to recommend approval and our only requests are that they retain video for 30 day and is paren that to the police department upon request and then also similar to the last establishment that weapon went over, they have a hands-on approach, if there was a
promoter or third party, they have a manager on site to look after the establishment because it is their license. as far as the extended hour, we're requesting the venue operate for 6 months with a good track record before going the 6 months. they have a fresh slate, it's just i think with our comfort level as far as being able to manage all the clubs in the district, broadway corridor, erie, to have the concern as far as on gary street until 2 a.m., we're requesting we have a 6 month period and evaluate on whether the extended hours be appropriate. >> i want to ask why you think that 6 month period would be appropriate? i mean, because if they start now with an after hours permit, then you will be up to speak with the new business as it happens and i'm wondering why
you think a six month wait period, was your thinking behind that? >> just from the standpoint, just opening up a club during the regular hours going to 2:00 is a challenge, it is a challenge throughout our district and having to manage that. our point is that providing that they can manage that well, which i think that they will, i met with them, we've gone over their plan, i think they'll be fine, our comfort level, we like to examine it after six months and seeing if going with the extended hours is appropriate. >> in my eye, i see it appropriate as having clubs closing at different times so you don't have 2:00 in your entire district, all these people pouring out into the street, don't you think it would be helpful in managing crowds to have an extended hours here? >> to a point, but also we have to look at what our personnel
levels are. a lot of times, there's officers that are held over until 3:00 margin for a time and that would boost that even further, so we want to make sure that the patrons are able to leave the establishment and we have to manage that that there aren't the fights and the drunken brawls outside, so it would extend the operating time for the police department as well. that's another factor that we look at as well. >> thank you. >> i have something to add to that. what if the music shuts down at 2:00 but everybody's able to leave by 2:30 so you don't have that intensity being pushed out at one time? >> well, i have to ask the commission, at that point, would there be an extended
hours issue if it were cut off, then it wouldn't be an issue. >> you can't be in the building? >> no, you need an extended hours permit. >> but still grant them -- >> would you do that to your club? >> yeah, our music's off at 2:30 and everybody out by 3:00 but most people are out by 2:30, you don't have the intensity at 2:00, my capacity is bigger than that. >> i have a question for staff. they have applied for a poe and an extended hours permit, correct? if we continue the extended hours permit for six months, that is not within our purview, we can't continue for more than 45 days, is that correct? >> 45 business days from the received application. >> we cannot continue it, so what you're asking us to do is deny it, and to separate these
permits and deny the extended hours and approve the place of entertainment and i'm not likely to want to do that because -- upeder -- under the code, we cannot continue for more than 45 days. >> does the applicant have the ability to delay it further than that time period? >> i'm sure the applicant does. you're going to put that pressure on him? okay. >> as far as options, and granted it's the commission that makes the final call on that. >> but in reading his application, it seems to me that after hours for this particular business and this particular place seems part of his business plan, part of his -- of what he's doing, so we've gone back and forth with after hours before. i tend to agree with commissioner hyde that staggered closings make more sense in general in most
neighborhoods but in business plans that require after hours, it's part of their business plan, to tell them they can't have that part of the business plan tells them they shouldn't succeed and i don't think i'm willing to either continue it, deny it or take it out of their business plan, so i'm probably going to vote for extended hours. >> i also wanted to point out that on exhibit c on their security plan, they do say that video surveillance will be kept for up to 90 days. >> right, we wanted to make sure that it was not only retained but also provided the police department upon request, which i don't think that's going to be an issue. >> any other questions for the officer? okay. >> thank you. >> is there anymore public comment? alright, then the matter is with the commission.
>> well, i mean, for me, you know, staggered closing as you say, in my experience in 12 years of having my place, it helps on public safety situations because not all your security is taxed and suddenly people are in the street and you're trying to round them up and get them on their way, even if they had extended hours for half an hour for now and they can always -- i don't know what the deal is, but at least if we're going to do extended hours, from my point for public safety, i think it's a plus, with we shut off their music or whatever, we can discuss that, but, you know, i'm kind of for extended hours to a point. >> commissioner tan? >> it doesn't seem like -- i think in their plan, it's to have programming go on potentially until 5:00, it's
not necessarily to say we have to start the music at 2:30 so it could be slightly staggered, so i'm inclined to support both the place of entertainment and the extended hours, i think the request here is 5:00 and i don't see a compelling reason not to support that. >> is that a motion. >> so, i move with that -- >> is there anymore comment before -- >> can we discuss after we move? >> yeah, great. >> so i'm moving to approve both the place of entertainment and the extended hours permits. i don't know if you want to divide that, with the place of entertainment permit to go with the police department's recommendations on condition that they hold the video for 30 day and is make that accessible to the police as well as have
an on-site manager when there's outside promoters. >> okay, hold on, clarification, you talk about extended hours -- >> i would like to second that. >> commissioner akers? >> being new to this process, i'm going to be asking a question, if we grant the permit and there's problems with the venue, isn't it in your purview to address those issues, we're moving forward with the benefit of the doubt, then we can address the problems with the extended hours, address that later, correct? >> correct. >> so, basically you're saying let's grant it at 5:00 and if they have issues, we
recondition it. >> yes. >> as we've done with other clubs in the past. >> i have a clarification, when you said you move to approve both the place of entertainment and the extended hours, did you put a limit on to 5 or did you just say extended hours? >> in the application, it says 5:00 a.m. >> unless you limit it, it's 6:00. >> right. i'm going to go with what the applicant applied for. >> okay, 5:00, okay. >> alright, so we have a motion on the floor to grant both with conditions placed on the permit for entertainment, that they retain the video for at least 30 days and provide it to the police department as well as having a manager on-site and we've had that second.